[matt_19]

http://www.interpolnyc.com/forum//public/style_images/cethin/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />obstaclespecialist, on 24 April 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Hey I have that shirt! Or something blindingly similar. :lol:

[tercat]

See how easily every thread can become the Paul pictures thread? :P

[obstaclespecialist]

sfive, on 26 April 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

He wore a very nice looking suit for the London shows.

At first I was suspicious and thought there was a strict dress code enforced by Daniel. :lol: But now that I think about it, maybe there isn't. Yeah, it's probably the feeling of awkwardness being the casual one onstage. Peer pressure. :lol:

Well, he got away with wearing a SF Giants jacket in England.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m35hy11N6n1qgugd7o1_500.jpg :huh:

[obstaclespecialist]

tercat, on 27 April 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

See how easily every thread can become the Paul pictures thread? :P

I have no idea what you mean :D :D :D

[miss_tess_nyc]

Nine, on 21 April 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Meh, Pajo and Brad aren't permanent fits for Interpol. Just like Brandon didn't really fit as well as all the past keyboardists did. They can all play the parts just fine, but they aren't Interpol. They lack the style, the panache, the attitude. Carlos was an integral part of what made Interpol and interesting band not just to listen to. I think that article Paul said about Carlos being an asshole was pretty on-point. He had awesome showmanship (something this band is really lacking without him) and you knew what you were getting with him. People knew he acted dickish, at least he made no point of hiding it.

I'm not saying they should find someone like Carlos again -- either in looks or personality -- but I don't know if the new 3-piece Interpol combo meal really satisfies. They're getting old, sedate, a bit more peaceful. It feels like they are planning things out more, exploring sonically, but it all gets boring eventually for all the positives driving in a "write good music" mode.

Agree with you on all points.

To me, Carlos is a major part of Interpol, and the band just isn't the same without him. Maybe with the next record which Carlos' presence and influence will be totally removed, it may be different. However on this last tour, I just couldn't help make comparisons while Pajo and Traux attempted to duplicate Carlos' work (but that's just me). The shows kind of left me flat, not elated.

On another note, as one of Carlos' fans, in Carlos' defense the guy did go through quite a bit towards the end of the Antics era. With what he went through, I can't really blame the guy in coming off defensive. Perhaps a part of him had died a bit during Antics which ultimately led him to lose interest being a band. However it is worth pointing out that despite that Sam came off a bit dick-ish in some interviews when asked about Carlos, Carlos never came out and smacked talked about his former band mates. He also did not try to derail any publicity away from Pol when they toured with Pajo and Traux. I think people should at least take note of that.

I do find it funny though that nearly two years latter after he left Pol and not being actively involved in music or the NYC club scene, people still find the need to write about Carlos. It will be interesting to see if the press and bloggers will continue to rehash Carlos' leaving when the band decides to work on a new record.

[Scavenger]

miss_tess_nyc, on 28 April 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

However it is worth pointing out that despite that Sam came off a bit dick-ish in some interviews when asked about Carlos, Carlos never came out and smacked talked about his former band mates.

I remember an interview from around OLTA in which a girl is interviewing Sam and Carlos backstage at a festival. Sam is being really nice, polite and funny but Carlos was being overtly rude to her. To the point where Sam interjected and said "Hey, come on man. She's just asking you a question". It really stuck with me because it was awkward and cruel. Carlos was being condescending and aloof. Some of Sam's comments about him make a lot of sense when put in context.

[obstaclespecialist]

I think Paul should sue Carlos for custody of Gaius.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39jwlA0K51qfyule.png
Just sayin', we all know he loved Paul best. :wub:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39k3zIoUl1qfyule.png
That is some love right there.

[obstaclespecialist]

sfive, on 30 April 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

I did a search for that SF Giants jacket, and it was sold at the Foot Locker in Europe (but not in the states). I think that jacket is not for sale any more.

It's a pretty jacket, but IDK why a European store would sell an MLB jacket. I thought they didn't give a fuck about our national pastime.
I think Paul wears random sports apparel just bcs it looks cool.

[tercat]

miss_tess_nyc, on 27 April 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

On another note, as one of Carlos' fans, in Carlos' defense the guy did go through quite a bit towards the end of the Antics era. With what he went through, I can't really blame the guy in coming off defensive. Perhaps a part of him had died a bit during Antics which ultimately led him to lose interest being a band. However it is worth pointing out that despite that Sam came off a bit dick-ish in some interviews when asked about Carlos, Carlos never came out and smacked talked about his former band mates. He also did not try to derail any publicity away from Pol when they toured with Pajo and Traux. I think people should at least take note of that.

I don't recall reading anything Sam said about Carlos that sounded "dickish" to me, though certainly he's talked candidly about their differences more than the other band members have. As I've said before, I don't think any of us REALLY knows exactly what happened. At this point, I think Carlos leaving the band probably had a lot of the characteristics of the end of any relationship. The two different sides of the situation have two different viewpoints. Who's to say that either viewpoint isn't valid or even entirely "right"? They are different people with different goals. They see things differently. That there was dissatisfaction and maybe a little unpleasantness on both sides isn't at all surprising. Sam is a pretty open guy, so he was willing to come out and talk about it. Carlos wanted to get away from the limelight, and, not being in a band anymore, he wasn't granting a bunch of interviews. I get the feeling he really wanted to move on, and it wouldn't have done him any good to make a big show of bitterness about the past. Sam and the other band members who are still involved in Interpol were obviously going to be asked about Carlos a lot after the split. Carlos just didn't want to have anything to do with Interpol anymore, so he stayed away from any interviews. It makes perfect sense. Did Sam disparage Carlos for his attempts at acting? Did he say things that would undermine Carlos' attempts to make a go of his career moving forward? Maybe I missed that--it's entirely possible as I'm sure I haven't read/heard/seen every single interview. Again, if Carlos no longer wants to have anything to do with Interpol, why would be spend time worrying about whether or not Pajo or Traux did a good job? Why would he make a public comment on it? From what I can tell, Carlos was not kicked out of the band. He has nothing to be bitter about on that front. He left the band by choice. If you're unhappy about Carlos leaving the band--well, it's what he wanted.

Anyway, this thread has gone wayyyy off topic. There are several other threads where people can talk about this, post pictures of Paul, etc.

[miss_tess_nyc]

WOW! Where in the world do I begin! I certainly didn't come here to start a fight, nor allude I have an inside track to what led Carlos to quit. CHILL!

I posted my opinion Tercat, just as others have done regarding this ridiculous article. As a longtime fan of this band, I am entitled to do that from time to time as I still lurk here for information regarding Paul and his solo career. I really have no idea what would set you off in which you felt the need to do a dissertation to my post. As a fan and the fact that this is the internet, I am, as well as others, are entitled to voice their opinion since it was on topic to the discussions regarding Carlos and there was mention regarding Pajo and the last tour.

No need to get bent out of shape here, but for the record, there have been a few interviews which Sam called Carlos a "Pain in the Ass" and a "Bitch" and he was happy that Carlos left. That's not exactly kind parting words right there and in my opinion, Sam is a dick for doing that. I will end it at that.

It is sad however that a "moderator" does not encourage free and respectful speech now and then and cannot deal with some people having a different opinion. I certainly didn't come on here to start any arguments or be disrespectful.

[tercat]

You misread my post entirely. I was stating my opinion as well. I didn't say you couldn't state yours, I merely said this was not the right thread for it. I also mentioned earlier in the thread that others have posted things here that really belong somewhere else. What is the article (or articles) you mention? It would be useful to cite that. I apologize that I missed it (that's not sarcasm). I'm not suggesting that Sam didn't say those things, I'm just saying the context might be helpful.

If you are really not picking a fight then I don't know why your reaction to my post is so vehement. I didn't intend a "dissertation", I just felt there was a lot to which to respond. Trust me, I am not "bent out of shape."

If you read what I wrote, I didn't suggest that Sam's comments in various places were necessarily "kind parting words". I said that both sides probably feel they have bones to pick, just as you and I both have our own opinions.

Please make clear to me where I said that you could not state your opinion. I did not say that, nor have I ever said it. I stated perhaps a more, if you'll excuse me, moderate opinion. I may be a moderator, but I am entitled to an opinion as well. Notice the number of times in my post that I use the phrases "I think" and "I get the feeling." I know you feel strongly about this, and that's perfectly fine, but just because I responded to your post in detail (and not necessarily in complete agreement) does not mean I am up in arms about it. Now, can we please either continue this conversation elsewhere or move on? Thank you.

[tercat]

For whatever it's worth, I re-read the article linked to at the start of this thread, and it's really not that bad--unless you assume that it's all snark and sarcasm. The piece is from a FL paper, so it's only natural that it includes a bunch of Sam and Holy Terrors references. I suppose you can read it as very nasty, or not (albeit perhaps an odd choice for an article at this point).

[appollo four fourty]

Interpol always was, and always will be Paul, Kessler, Sam, and Carlos. I've stated this before (many years ago during a thread about what happens if the band broke up) Anything less, isn't Interpol.