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If itunes let you select the text I would've copy-pasted it, but they dont, so you'll have to check it out for yourself.
Basically, I have a problem with it. It's not necessarily what they said about the album, its more how they said it. From the beginning of the review it puts the album down for not being as good as totbl and how they should've tried to create something different instead of better. then in the very end they say
"they will never make a record as special as the debut. however, following it with one that is merely very good is no crime."
...heres an idea, try starting with that, then pick out what faults it may have. Don't spend an entire review putting it down and then try to atone for that at the end by saying ya but it's actually good.
Who agrees with me?
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iTunes review of Antics has anyone read it?
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:03 AM
I learned long ago to never ever ever read music reviews from "professional" music critics. They are the lowest form of life on the planet. That said, whoever wrote this review must be particularly dumb. I don't mind people who think TOTBL is the better of the two (personally, I think Antics is far better), but it is blindingly obvious that the two albums are extremely different; in tone, in feel, in texture, etc. So for this asshat to say that Antics is not "different" from TOTBL means you can pretty much ignore this review as being uninformed. I can't imagine the reviewer listened to the album more than two or three times.
Again, never trust a professional music critic. Ever.
Again, never trust a professional music critic. Ever.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:07 AM
knayte, on Oct 19 2005, 04:03 PM, said:
I learned long ago to never ever ever read music reviews from "professional" music critics. They are the lowest form of life on the planet. That said, whoever wrote this review must be particularly dumb. I don't mind people who think TOTBL is the better of the two (personally, I think Antics is far better), but it is blindingly obvious that the two albums are extremely different; in tone, in feel, in texture, etc. So for this asshat to say that Antics is not "different" from TOTBL means you can pretty much ignore this review as being uninformed. I can't imagine the reviewer listened to the album more than two or three times.
Again, never trust a professional music critic. Ever.
Again, never trust a professional music critic. Ever.
i agree, i think the critics can be very biased and if they dont think theyre gonna like summat, they wont. I havent read the review and i dont think ill bother cos i have my opinion and i think that Antics is a cracker of a record :)
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:43 AM
Its from the allmusic guide:
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by Andy Kellman
Had Interpol been honest with themselves before making their second album, they would've accepted the fact that improving on the debut would be out of the question. Their prime objective, then, would be to make a different record -- not a better one. Suck it up, prepare for the inevitable "sophomore slump" darts, and get on with it. Having fielded comparison after comparison since the release of Turn on the Bright Lights, you'd think the band would've also thought to be more cautious the second time around. They weren't. Believe it or not, Antics opens with a song that resembles a defunct band more closely -- in structure, sound, and sentiment -- than anything on the debut. From the processional church organ to the sighing guitar, from the echo on the spare piano notes to the sound of the drums, from the stained-glass window to the wailing wall, "Next Exit" is a poor facsimile of Gentlemen-era Afghan Whigs (there we go again). Though the remainder of the album sounds like Interpol, and not your favorite unsung band, it's far from a favorable start -- and as Antics plays out, the album begins to form the shape of a Singles Going Unsteady, with five possible A-sides and as many apparent B-sides arranged to stream like something you'd listen to from beginning to end. The sequence runs thusly: B-side, A-side, A-side, B-side, A-side, B-side, B-side, A-side, A-side, B-side. Some of the five A-sides cast Interpol in brighter light -- a relatively upbeat one, not merely an up-tempo one. Though up-tempo songs weren't absent from Turn on the Bright Lights, they were delivered in pensive, steady waves of gloom. The up-tempo songs here aren't nearly as downcast -- even "C'mere," in which Paul Banks sings, "The trouble is that you're in love with someone else," turns out to be more charming than self-pitying. Another development is the presence of some taut dance rhythms -- touring has made them a better, more flexible band, especially within the interplay between bassist Carlos Dengler and drummer Sam Fogarino. To the band's credit, the weaker songs aren't necessarily eating space for no reason -- their B-material here is more affecting than the average indie band's A-material. The problem is that, during those lesser moments, the band shows signs of attempting to cannibalize Turn on the Bright Lights' magnetic sulking, and their hearts don't seem to be as in it. The truth, as alluded to above, is that they will never make a record as special as the debut. However, following it with one that is merely very good is no crime
But then again. looking at other reviews from there, it doesnt seem to be too good...
However, the bit about the B-sides and A-sides i really dont agree with. NEJ is much more appropriate that Length of Love as an A-side :rolleyes:
But yes, TOTBL is better than antics...
Review
by Andy Kellman
Had Interpol been honest with themselves before making their second album, they would've accepted the fact that improving on the debut would be out of the question. Their prime objective, then, would be to make a different record -- not a better one. Suck it up, prepare for the inevitable "sophomore slump" darts, and get on with it. Having fielded comparison after comparison since the release of Turn on the Bright Lights, you'd think the band would've also thought to be more cautious the second time around. They weren't. Believe it or not, Antics opens with a song that resembles a defunct band more closely -- in structure, sound, and sentiment -- than anything on the debut. From the processional church organ to the sighing guitar, from the echo on the spare piano notes to the sound of the drums, from the stained-glass window to the wailing wall, "Next Exit" is a poor facsimile of Gentlemen-era Afghan Whigs (there we go again). Though the remainder of the album sounds like Interpol, and not your favorite unsung band, it's far from a favorable start -- and as Antics plays out, the album begins to form the shape of a Singles Going Unsteady, with five possible A-sides and as many apparent B-sides arranged to stream like something you'd listen to from beginning to end. The sequence runs thusly: B-side, A-side, A-side, B-side, A-side, B-side, B-side, A-side, A-side, B-side. Some of the five A-sides cast Interpol in brighter light -- a relatively upbeat one, not merely an up-tempo one. Though up-tempo songs weren't absent from Turn on the Bright Lights, they were delivered in pensive, steady waves of gloom. The up-tempo songs here aren't nearly as downcast -- even "C'mere," in which Paul Banks sings, "The trouble is that you're in love with someone else," turns out to be more charming than self-pitying. Another development is the presence of some taut dance rhythms -- touring has made them a better, more flexible band, especially within the interplay between bassist Carlos Dengler and drummer Sam Fogarino. To the band's credit, the weaker songs aren't necessarily eating space for no reason -- their B-material here is more affecting than the average indie band's A-material. The problem is that, during those lesser moments, the band shows signs of attempting to cannibalize Turn on the Bright Lights' magnetic sulking, and their hearts don't seem to be as in it. The truth, as alluded to above, is that they will never make a record as special as the debut. However, following it with one that is merely very good is no crime
But then again. looking at other reviews from there, it doesnt seem to be too good...
However, the bit about the B-sides and A-sides i really dont agree with. NEJ is much more appropriate that Length of Love as an A-side :rolleyes:
But yes, TOTBL is better than antics...
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:42 PM
These fucking critics are picking on a band signed to an Indie Label not a band that has EMI's Abbey Road Studio's at their disposal...
Not that it matters to the critic, but picking on Indie bands who are on tight budgets is fucking lame and uncalled for.
They should be happy that quality music can come from a label this size and still strongly compete with all the multi-millionaire Major Label acts like Ashley Simpson LOL.
Anyway music critics are just angry musicians who never made it because they sucked.....
Not that it matters to the critic, but picking on Indie bands who are on tight budgets is fucking lame and uncalled for.
They should be happy that quality music can come from a label this size and still strongly compete with all the multi-millionaire Major Label acts like Ashley Simpson LOL.
Anyway music critics are just angry musicians who never made it because they sucked.....
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:04 PM
youresocutewhen..., on Oct 19 2005, 10:43 AM, said:
Its from the allmusic guide:
Review
by Andy Kellman
Review
by Andy Kellman
I read that review once...but it sucks. Critics are always pickin' up crumbs of the bands to live...
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:07 PM
^yeah, reviews on that place range from bad to down-right hilarious (IMHO)
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:03 PM
I think every music fan has a little "rock-critic pretentiousness" in them. Which is why at this moment I have the urge to severly bitch-slap any person who claims that TOTBL "pisses all over Antics, too easily actually." But I won't. Because civilized people can disagree. Also, finding this person's place of residence would be too much trouble.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:19 PM
onedayiwillmarrypaulbanks, on Oct 19 2005, 01:52 PM, said:
Reviewers are really just pretentious rock snobs anyway. They like to speak entirely in cliches, and its tiresome. It's best to ignore them.
Totally agree
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:23 PM
knayte, on Oct 19 2005, 02:03 PM, said:
I think every music fan has a little "rock-critic pretentiousness" in them. Which is why at this moment I have the urge to severly bitch-slap any person who claims that TOTBL "pisses all over Antics, too easily actually." But I won't. Because civilized people can disagree. Also, finding this person's place of residence would be too much trouble.
:lol: :lol: I actually like more Antics, please don't hit me.
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PoleDanceoftheStars, on Oct 20 2005, 10:08 AM, said:
"Music Critics" NEVER have good reviews, they mostly root for mainstream music. Typical music that wins "vma's" and other gay awards like that.
Basically, not Interpol [which im so glad about]
Basically, not Interpol [which im so glad about]
In future, can we please refrain from using the word gay as a derogatory term?
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 07:29 PM
oh dear... the ongoing debate of which is better continues...
On the street the other day (actually whilst waiting on line for the Webster Hall show) I was aksed by this man, a passer-by if you will, who was in search of a ticket for his son... he asks which is better.. TOTBL or Antics... the man knew his stuff to an extent.. I was impressed... but I honestly couldn't answer him.. I find it extremely difficult to choose.. but I have to admit.. I like Antics.. I don't agree at all with the negative reviews.. and I am sooooooooooooo looking forward to #3.
On the street the other day (actually whilst waiting on line for the Webster Hall show) I was aksed by this man, a passer-by if you will, who was in search of a ticket for his son... he asks which is better.. TOTBL or Antics... the man knew his stuff to an extent.. I was impressed... but I honestly couldn't answer him.. I find it extremely difficult to choose.. but I have to admit.. I like Antics.. I don't agree at all with the negative reviews.. and I am sooooooooooooo looking forward to #3.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:15 PM
foofghtr, on Oct 19 2005, 09:42 AM, said:
These fucking critics are picking on a band signed to an Indie Label not a band that has EMI's Abbey Road Studio's at their disposal...
Not that it matters to the critic, but picking on Indie bands who are on tight budgets is fucking lame and uncalled for.
They should be happy that quality music can come from a label this size and still strongly compete with all the multi-millionaire Major Label acts like Ashley Simpson LOL.
Anyway music critics are just angry musicians who never made it because they sucked.....
Not that it matters to the critic, but picking on Indie bands who are on tight budgets is fucking lame and uncalled for.
They should be happy that quality music can come from a label this size and still strongly compete with all the multi-millionaire Major Label acts like Ashley Simpson LOL.
Anyway music critics are just angry musicians who never made it because they sucked.....
I agree with you, especially on that part. I dont know why it is so hard for some people to see the great difference between both albums. Yes, TOTBL can be a bit more "uptempo" or happy if you wish, but it doesnt make it better than Antics. I like Antics because it provies a different environment. The sound puts me in a relaxing mood and i like that a lot. TOTBL is a great album too. I can play it for days non-stop and not get tired of it. I think it just depends on the person's mood. If you feel Antics is better, it's because you find something interesting in the music, it doesnt necessarily make the first bad or worse. Overall, this is dumb everyone has different opinions about everything, and there's no point in feeling like killing those who dont like the same thing you do. Like someone said, that's not civilized.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:44 PM
R.C.P., on Oct 20 2005, 04:47 PM, said:
He's right on a lot of it, and if he gave the album 5 out of 5 you fucks would be all up on his nuts.
i never really had a problem with what he said, even though i dont agree with it. my main complaint was the way it was put together. how it wasnt until the end that he got around to saying that the album was actually really good. stuff like that is what makes for a bad review, not the actual opinion, which is obviously going to be different for everyone.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:33 PM
This review is not only on iTunes, it's everywhere. I really don't like reading reviews because I like to judge it for myself. I don't like someone telling what I should like.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:13 PM
Everybody knows that only the worst journalists become critics. Writing critques on film or music is so stupid and hack that any one with a spell checker, a few read books under their belt, and the spare time- can do it.
It's a job that rookies often get when joining a magazine or paper because nobody gives a shxt about it. It tests there sentence structuring and whatnot. Other than that it holds as much weight as the crossword game.
It's a job that rookies often get when joining a magazine or paper because nobody gives a shxt about it. It tests there sentence structuring and whatnot. Other than that it holds as much weight as the crossword game.
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